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    Default Re: Burma.... Civil war is about to explode there.

    This has become the basis for a civilian vs Junta fight. Unfortunately, we're talking about a wholly unarmed society. For the most part, NONE of the civilians and certainly not the Monks, are armed. These folks need HELP, but who will help them if not the US?

    If not the UN?

    Who?
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    Burma: Thousands dead in massacre of the monks dumped in the jungle

    By MARCUS OSCARSSON - More by this author » Last updated at 15:04pm on 1st October 2007

    Thousands of protesters are dead and the bodies of hundreds of executed monks have been dumped in the jungle, a former intelligence officer for Burma's ruling junta has revealed.




    The most senior official to defect so far, Hla Win, said: "Many more people have been killed in recent days than you've heard about. The bodies can be counted in several thousand."





    Mr Win, who spoke out as a Swedish diplomat predicted that the revolt has failed, said he fled when he was ordered to take part in a massacre of holy men. He has now reached the border with Thailand.




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    Slaughter: Executed monks have been dumped in the jungle



    Meanwhile, the United Nations special envoy was in Burma's new capital today seeking meetings with the ruling military junta.



    Ibrahim Gambari met detained opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi in Rangoon yesterday. But he has yet to meet the country's senior generals as he attempts to halt violence against monks and pro-democracy activists.

    It is anticipated the meeting will happen tomorrow.




    Heavily-armed troops and police flooded the streets of Rangoon during Mr Ibrahim's visit to prevent new protests.




    Mr Gambari met some of the country's military leaders in Naypyidaw yesterday and has returned there for further talks. But he did not meet senior general Than Shwe or his deputy Maung Aye - and they have issued no comment.




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    Tensions: People gather outside a temple after a police raid today





    Reports from exiles along the frontier confirmed that hundreds of monks had simply "disappeared" as 20,000 troops swarmed around Rangoon yesterday to prevent further demonstrations by religious groups and civilians.



    Word reaching dissidents hiding out on the border suggested that as well as executions, some 2,000 monks are being held in the notorious Insein Prison or in university rooms which have been turned into cells.



    There were reports that many were savagely beaten at a sports ground on the outskirts of Rangoon, where they were heard crying for help.



    Others who had failed to escape disguised as civilians were locked in their bloodstained temples.




    There, troops abandoned religious beliefs, propped their rifles against statues of Buddha and began cooking meals on stoves set up in shrines.



    In stark contrast, the streets of Rangoon and Mandalay - centres of the attempted saffron revolution last week - were virtually deserted.



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    Checkpoint: Police outside the house of opposition leader Aung Sang Suu Kyi today



    Executed: The body of a Buddhist monk floats in a river




    A Swedish diplomat who visited Burma during the protests said last night that in her opinion the revolution has failed.



    Liselotte Agerlid, who is now in Thailand, said that the Burmese people now face possibly decades of repression. "The Burma revolt is over," she added.



    "The military regime won and a new generation has been violently repressed and violently denied democracy. The people in the street were young people, monks and civilians who were not participating during the 1988 revolt.



    "Now the military has cracked down the revolt, and the result may very well be that the regime will enjoy another 20 years of silence, ruling by fear."

    Mrs Agerlid said Rangoon is heavily guarded by soldiers.



    "There are extremely high numbers of soldiers in Rangoon's streets," she added. "Anyone can see it is absolutely impossible for any demonstration to gather, or for anyone to do anything.



    "People are scared and the general assessment is that the fight is over. We were informed from one of the largest embassies in Burma that 40 monks in the Insein prison were beaten to death today and subsequently burned."



    The diplomat also said that three monasteries were raided yesterday afternoon and are now totally abandoned.


    At his border hideout last night, 42-year-old Mr Win said he hopes to cross into Thailand and seek asylum at the Norwegian Embassy.



    The 42-year-old chief of military intelligence in Rangoon's northern region, added: "I decided to desert when I was ordered to raid two monasteries and force several hundred monks onto trucks.



    "They were to be killed and their bodies dumped deep inside the jungle. I refused to participate in this."



    With his teenage son, he made his escape from Rangoon, leaving behind his wife and two other sons.



    He had no fears for their safety because his brother is a powerful general who, he believes, will defend the family.




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    Protests: But the situation inside Burma remains unclear




    Mr Win's defection will raise a faint hope among tens of thousands of Burmese who have fled to villages along the Thai border.



    They will feel others in the army may follow him and turn on their ageing leaders, Senior General Than Shwe and his deputy, Vice Senior General Maung Aye.
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    Myanmar media lashes out at foreigners
    Yahoo News ^ | October, 4, 2008

    YANGON, Myanmar - Myanmar's military rulers on Thursday accused foreign governments of trying to destroy the country, while soldiers carried out more overnight raids to arrest people suspected of joining a pro-democracy uprising.

    Soldiers maintained a visible presence on the streets of Yangon, Myanmar's biggest city, where an eerie quiet has returned after last week's deadly crackdown on the biggest anti-government rebellion in nearly two decades.

    About 200 riot police were posted near the lakeside home of democracy leader Aung San Suu Kyi, two dozen inside her compound and two patrol boats watching from the water.

    With Internet access to the outside world blocked, state-controlled newspapers churned out the government's version of the crisis and filled pages with propaganda slogans, such as "We favor stability. We favor peace," and "We oppose unrest and violence."

    Critics from the international community and foreign media were dismissed as "liars attempting to destroy the nation" — one of many bold-faced slogans covering The New Light of Myanmar newspaper's back page Thursday.

    Propaganda is routine in Myanmar, but the media attack on foreigners could be a sign the junta is trying to show citizens it is back in control of the country.

    State-run newspapers made no mention of Buddhist monks being detained or of soldiers dragging people from their homes in nighttime raids.

    Instead, coverage was devoted to pro-government rallies that have been held in stadiums around the country in recent days, such as one in the southeastern town of Myiek that New Light of Myanmar said was attended by 36,000 people.

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    CNN's Anderson Cooper "no guns in Burma" comment

    Caught several minutes of Anderson Cooper's rant about Burma the other night.


    He was having cross talk with someone regarding the population's inability to resist Government actions against them and made a matter of fact statement along the line of "Of course, the people of Burma don't have any guns".


    I don't even think Anderson realized that what he had just said was a vindication of our own 2nd Amendment rights..........
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    Default Re: Burma.... Civil war is about to explode there.

    Myanmar is a staunch ally of Red China. The regime enjoys the full support of the Chinese Communists. Therefore it will be very difficult to dislodge them.

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