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    They caved.

    I'm not surprised...just very disappointed.

    Sure the truth can be painful at times, but I had hopes that with something as important as 9/11...the network would show some backbone.

    Shame on them. When did the truth become so disposable?

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    September 7, 2006

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    ABC alters 9/11 show under pressure


    By Scott Collins, Times Staff Writer


    ABC's upcoming five-hour docudrama "The Path to 9/11" is quickly becoming a political cause célèbre.

    The network has in recent days made changes to the film, set to air Sunday and Monday, after leading political figures, many of them Democrats, complained about bias and alleged inaccuracies. Meanwhile, a left-wing organization has launched a letter-writing campaign urging the network to "correct" or dump the miniseries, while conservative blogs have launched a vigorous defense.

    "The Path to 9/11," whose large ensemble includes Harvey Keitel and Patricia Heaton, offers a panoramic sweep of the events leading up to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The movie dramatizes what it deems intelligence and operational failures of the Clinton and Bush administrations, relying heavily on public records. Thomas Kean, the chairman of the 9/11 commission, served as a consultant.

    After a screening of the first episode in Washington last week, some audience members attacked the film's depiction of the Clinton administration's pursuit of Osama bin Laden. Among those unhappy was Richard Ben-Veniste, an attorney and member of the 9/11 commission whom some conservatives have dismissed as a Democratic attack dog. Richard A. Clarke, the former counterterrorism czar, has criticized the movie for suggesting that the Clinton administration was in a position to capture Bin Laden in 1998 but canceled the mission at the last minute.

    After much discussion, ABC executives and the producers toned down, but did not eliminate entirely, a scene that involved Clinton's national security advisor, Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger, declining to give the order to kill Bin Laden, according to a person involved with the film who declined to be identified because of the sensitivities involved.

    "That sequence has been the focus of attention," the source said, adding: "These are very slight alterations."

    In addition, the network decided that the credits would say the film is based "in part" on the 9/11 commission report, rather than simply "based on" the bestselling report, as the producers originally intended.

    ABC, meanwhile, is tip-toeing away from the film's version of events. In a statement, the network said the miniseries "is a dramatization, not a documentary, drawn from a variety of sources, including the 9/11 commission report, other published materials and from personal interviews."

    The statement adds: "The events that lead to 9/11 originally sparked great debate, so it's not surprising that a movie surrounding those events has revived the debate. The attacks were a pivotal moment in our history that should never be forgotten and it's fitting that the discussion continues."

    None of ABC's moves is likely to quell the debate, however.

    The Center for American Progress Action Fund, a liberal advocacy group, said on Wednesday it had collected 25,000 letters asking ABC to either correct or cancel the miniseries. "The miniseries presents an agenda that blames the Clinton administration for the 9/11 attacks while ignoring numerous errors and failures of the Bush administration," the center said in a news release.




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    Listening to Hugh Hewitt show they have stated that Clinton and Sandy Burger had a big hand in making ABC cave in.

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    So do something about this, or at least make the effort to do something about it...

    SIGN THE PETITION requesting ABC to air the program in its orignal form - the form which was pre-screened the last week of August to a few selected individuals.



    http://www.petitiononline.com/eds1/


    Here.... I'll make it even easier to do...



    To: ABC News and Walt Disney Company TO THE WALT DISNEY COMPANY AND ABC NEWS:


    It is outrageous that the Democrats and former President Clinton and his buddies can get a (once?) respected organization like ABC News and Disney who owns it to change a documentary on 9/11 called, "The Path to 9/11."

    We, the undersigned, demand that ABC release the original, unedited version of the film, and broadcast it, so the American public can see the truth of what led up to 9/11 and how the Clinton administration failed, twice, to stop Bin Laden when they had the chance.


    Sincerely,

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    You wanna see exactly how scared the Demokrat's are of "The Path to 9/11". Just recieved in my Email inbox. What a bunch of bald faced liars, sninvelling crybabies, thin-skinned history revising, no good weasels these people are. Arseholes who are so afraid of the truth of the failed Clinton Administration that they resort to intimidation, backstabbing, and damn near extortion to have this program pulled from the airwaves and away from the eyes of the American viewing public. Disgusting and utterly shameful.


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    Subject: RE: A Despicable, Irresponsible Fraud:p:p


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    Dear Fellow Democrat,:p:p
    This is it: crunch time for getting the slanderous ABC television docudrama "The Path to 9/11" yanked off the air. The network schedule has this slanderous attack on Democrats slated to start on Sunday night, September 10, at 8 o'clock -- and as long as it stays on the schedule, we have work to do. Tell your friends and family about this disgrace and ask them to push to keep this propaganda off the air::p:p
    http://www.democrats.org/pathto911/send:p:p
    Here's the good news: the suits at ABC and the Walt Disney Company have started panicking under pressure, thanks to your ferocious response to the outrageous decision to put this irresponsible miniseries on the air. But until Disney quits defending its plan to broadcast conservative propaganda -- fraudulently presented to Americans as "based on the 9/11 Commission Report" -- the company should plan to keep taking every bit of heat we dish out.:p:p
    Here's a quick catch-up on developments over the last 48 hours::p:p
    • President Clinton, through his attorney, rebuked ABC for producing a "factually and incontrovertibly inaccurate" miniseries -- and walked the network through three make-believe scenes in the "the Path to 9/11" that defame people and misrepresent events during his administration. :p:p
    • Clinton's spokesman later stepped up the pressure, condemning Disney as "despicable" for "airing a fictional version of what is a serious and emotional event for our country. No reputable organization," he said, "should dramatize 9-11 for a profit at the expense of the truth." :p:p
    • The families of September 11 victims have weighed in on the controversy, telling "entertainers" not to "promote misleading or incorrect information as fact to the public." :p:p
    • House and Senate Democratic leaders hammered Disney president and CEO Robert Iger, in letters that questioned the company's commitment to its "reputation ... as a corporation worthy of the trust of the American people and the United States Congress." :p:p
    • Scholastic has pulled teaching materials off its website and has scrambled to adopt a plan to help teachers show students "the differences between factual reporting and a dramatization," but is still encouraging teachers to show their students this propaganda. :p:p
    Thanks for helping to make all this happen by joining over 150,000 Americans who told Disney president Robert Iger to keep this cheap right-wing miniseries off our airwaves. But our work isn't done. Before we deliver your letter today, tell your family, friends, neighbors and colleagues to insist that Disney and ABC live up to its duty to tell the truth::p:p
    http://www.democrats.org/pathto911/send :p:p
    Thank you,
    Tom :p:p

    Tom McMahon
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    Democratic National Committee:p:p

    >>> "Tom McMahon, Democratic Party" 9/6/2006 5:53 pm
    Dear Fellow Democrat,:p:p
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    Does a major national broadcast network want to stain itself by presenting an irresponsible, slanderous, fraudulent, "docu-drama" to the American public?:p>:p>
    Not if you and I have the last word -- but either way, we're about to find out.:p>:p>
    The ABC television network -- a cog in the Walt Disney empire -- unleashed a promotional blitz in the last week for a new "docudrama" called "The Path to 9/11". ABC has thrown its corporate might behind the two-night production, and bills it as a public service: a TV event, to quote the ABC tagline, "based on the 9/11 Commission Report".
    :p:p
    That's false. "The Path to 9/11" is actually a bald-faced attempt to slander Democrats and revise history right before Americans vote in a major election. :p:p
    The miniseries, which was put together by right-wing conservative writers, relies on the old GOP playbook of using terrorism to scare Americans. "The Path to 9/11" mocks the truth and dishonors the memory of 9/11 victims to serve a cheap, callous political agenda. It irresponsibly misrepresents the facts and completely distorts the truth. :p:p
    ABC/Disney executives need to hear from the public and understand that their abuse of the public trust comes with a cost. Tell Walt Disney CEO Robert Iger to keep this right-wing propaganda off the air -- we'll deliver your message: :p:p
    http://www.democrats.org/pathto911 :p:p
    This story is breaking quickly. The bias of the "docudrama" only became known when ABC began circulating previews recently. Less than two weeks ago, 9/11 Commission member Richard Ben-Veniste confronted a lead writer of "The Path to 9/11" after watching the first half of the miniseries at a screening, but most of what we know amounts to bits and pieces because ABC chose to screen the miniseries to conservative bloggers and right-wing media outlets exclusively. Almost none of the Democrats portrayed in the film have even been asked for their thoughts.:p:p
    But we still know enough, thanks to news accounts and crack research, to fact check "The Path to 9/11" as a biased, irresponsible mess. Here's what you need to know::p:p
    • Richard Clarke -- the counterterrorism czar for the Clinton administration, now himself a consultant to ABC News -- describes a key scene in "The Path to 9/11" as "180 degrees from what happened." In the scene, a CIA field agent places a phone call to get the go ahead to kill Osama Bin Laden, then in his sights, only to have a senior Clinton administration official refuse and hang up the phone. Sandy Berger, President Clinton's National Security Advisor, called the same scene "a total fabrication. It did not happen." And Roger Cressey, a top Bush and Clinton counterterrorism official, said it was "something straight out of Disney and fantasyland. It's factually wrong. And that's shameful." :p:p
    • Another scene revives the old right-wing myth that press reporting made it impossible to track Osama bin Laden, accusing the Washington Post of blowing the secret that American intelligence tracked his satellite phone calls. In reality, responsibility for that blunder -- contrary to "The Path to 9/11" -- rests with none other than the arch-conservative Washington Times. :p:p
    • The former National Security Council head of counterterrorism says that President Clinton "approved every request made of him by the CIA and the U.S. military involving using force against bin Laden and al-Qaeda," and the 9/11 report says the CIA had full authority from President Clinton to strike Bin Laden. Yet chief "Path to 9/11" scriptwriter Cyrus Nowrasteh, a friend of Rush Limbaugh, says the miniseries shows how President Clinton had "frequent opportunities in the '90s to stop Bin Laden in his tracks -- but lacked the will to do so." :p:p
    • ABC asked only the Republican co-chair of the 9/11 Commission, Tom Kean, Sr., to advise the makers of "The Path to 9/11". The producers optioned two books, one written by a Bush administration political appointee, as the basis of the screenplay -- yet bill the miniseries as "based on the 9/11 Commission Report." :p:p
    This is a picture of bias -- a conservative attempt to rewrite the history of September 11 to blame Democrats, just in time for the election.:p:p
    Tell Walt Disney president Robert Iger that you hold his company responsible -- and that this community demands that ABC tell the truth::p:p
    http://www.democrats.org/pathto911 :p:p
    ABC is trying to use of the airwaves -- airwaves owned by you and me, and loaned to broadcasters as a public trust -- to slander Democrats and sell a slanderous, irresponsible fraud to the American people, and they're shamefully doing it just weeks away from Election Day.:p:p
    The Walt Disney Corporation could have given Americans an honest look at September 11. Instead, the company abandoned its duty to the truth -- and embraced the fiction known as "The Path to 9/11.":p:p
    But ABC isn't the only company pushing this gross revision of history. ABC has enlisted the reputable education and children's entertainment company Scholastic, Inc. to send 100,000 letters to high school teachers, urging them to show students "The Path to 9/11". Scholastic has also created a discussion guide for teachers to use to encourage students and their families to watch this irresponsible fraud and then discuss it in school. The discussion guide does not in any way point out the concerns and criticisms that have been raised about the validity and accuracy of the film. :p:p
    We've got to stop this now. :p:p
    ABC/Disney must face an accountability moment. You can ratchet up the pressure on ABC by sending your own letter to Walt Disney CEO Robert Iger -- tell him to keep this propaganda off their air.:p:p
    http://www.democrats.org/pathto911 :p:p
    We'll keep you up to date as this story evolves. :p:p
    Thank you,
    Tom :p:p

    Tom McMahon
    Executive Director
    Democratic National Committee:p:p


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    Former Head of CIA's Bin Laden Unit: Clinton Admin Did Nix Osama Op

    Posted by Noel Sheppard on September 7, 2006 - 00:22.

    http://newsbusters.org/node/7438

    In response to an article published at NewsBusters and The American Thinker, I have received two e-mail messages from Michael Scheuer, a 22-year veteran of the CIA that used to head up “Alec Station,” the Counterterrorist Center’s Osama bin Laden unit.

    (Update: Scheuer is the individual regularly referred to in the 9/11 Commission report as "Mike".)

    His name might ring a bell as the previously anonymous author of the books Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror and Through Our Enemies' Eyes: Osama bin Laden, Radical Islam, and the Future of America. In his writing as well as his interviews, Scheuer is an outspoken critic of the current Administration’s prosecution of the war on terror, as well as an opponent of the war in Iraq. As such, he is not considered to be a friend of the president’s.


    That said, after reading my piece about the smear campaign against ABC’s “The Path to 9/11,” Scheuer apprised me of an op-ed he had written for the Washington Times on July 5 of this year. Given its context to this issue, I wanted to share it with our readers, and will do so in its entirety in a moment.

    However, before I do, let me first share a more recent opinion offered by Scheuer as answers to some questions I asked of him in response to his first e-mail message:

    “Is the scene in question as depicted by Rush an accurate account of the plan to capture or kill bin Laden in Afghanistan. If so, who do you believe gave the order to halt it?”

    Scheuer responded:


    Regarding the scene, it was never clear to my officers or myself who canceled the operation. It is true that Clarke was bad-mouthing it. What I don't think people know, however, is that the Agency had thoroughly reviewed the plan and had approved its execution at the highest level -- that is, at the level of DCI Tenet and his immediate subordinates. (NB: At Tenet's direction, JSOC (JOINT SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND) commanders at Fort Bragg also reviewed the plan. They approved it, said they could not do better, and built two sand-table mock-ups of the bin Laden's compound for us to use in preparing the operation.) My officers and I were told that the plan had been sent to Clarke and the NSC for approval. The next thing we knew, the Chief of CT (COUNTER-TERRORISM) at CIA told us that the plan had been canceled because civilians might get killed, there was not a hundred percent chance that we would get bin Laden, and that if bin Laden was killed in the capture effort the CIA might get accused of assassination.

    The implication to us at the time was that the NSC canceled the operation, but Tenet later claimed he did it himself. I don't know what the full truth is on this issue. Interestingly, after our east Africa embassies were bombed on 7 August 98, Clarke ordered us to immediately revive the capture plan, but of course by then the chance had been well and truly lost.

    Update: Scheuer's statements above are somewhat confirmed by the 9/11 Commission report:


    "Mike" thought the capture plan was "the perfect operation." It required minimum infrastructure. The plan had now been modified so that the tribals would keep Bin Ladin in a hiding place for up to a month before turning him over to the United States -- thereby increasing the chances of keeping the U.S. hand out of sight. "Mike" trusted the information from the Afghan network; it had been corroborated by other means, he told us. The lead CIA officer in the field, Gary Schroen, also had confidence in the tribals. In a May 6 cable to CIA headquarters, he pronounced their planning "almost as professional and detailed...as would be done by any U.S. military special operations element."



    Update: Another interesting part of the 9/11 Commission report concerning this matter:


    On May 29, "Jeff" informed "Mike" that he had just met with Tenet, Pavitt, and the chief of the Directorate's Near Eastern Division. The decision was made not to go ahead with the operation. "Mike" cabled the field that he had been directed to "stand down on the operation for the time being."


    As a further elaboration of Scheuer’s views, here is his July 5 Washington Times op-ed that will certainly shed more light on the current controversy surrounding ABC’s “The Path to 9/11”:


    Bill and Dick, Osama and Sandy


    With one credible September 11 movie, "United 93," under our belts, it will be interesting to see whether ABC-TV will complete the September 11 Commission's whitewashing of the pre-September 11 failure of U.S. intelligence-community leaders in its forthcoming mini-series based on Richard Clarke's memoir, "Against All Enemies."

    Media teasers about the mini-series have said that Mr. Clarke -- the former "terrorism czar" -- and a senior FBI officer, the late John O'Neill, will be the heroes of the saga. If true, and if ABC's fact-checkers are not diligent in verifying Mr. Clarke's stories and claims, the mini-series will be the September 11 commission's dream come true: The Bush administration will be blamed for September 11, the feckless moral cowardice of the Clinton administration will be disguised and Mr. Clarke and Mr. O'Neill -- in my view, two principal authors of September 11 -- will be beatified.

    Mr. Clarke's book, on the basis of my involvement to varying degrees in the issues it covers, is a mixture of fact, fiction and cover-up. Mr. Clarke seems to get most names and dates right, and is correct in damning the early Bush administration for obliviousness to the al Qaeda threat. We must also take him at his word on his touching, if sycophantic, tales of Mr. Clinton instructing a young boy to be good to his mom and Hillary Rodham Clinton's secluded moment praying on her knees.

    On the fantasy level, Mr. Clarke lays it on thick. His claim that the Clinton administration "defeated an al-Qaeda attempt to dominate Bosnia" is nonsense; bin Laden sent few fighters there because he had no contiguous safe haven for them. Mr. Clarke's claim that "the CIA had taken months to tell the FBI" several hijackers were in America is a lie. FBI officers sat in the unit I first commanded and then served in and they read the same information I did. If the data did not get to FBI headquarters it is because the FBI then lacked, and still lacks, a useable computer system. The FBI did not know the September 11 hijackers were here because Judge Louis Freeh and Robert Mueller have failed to provide their officers computers that allow them to talk securely to their headquarters and other intelligence community elements.

    (SEAN OSBORNE NOTE: The FBI also did not know the hijackers were here because THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION lawyers in the DoD - assigned to the DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY - HAD ILLEGALLY FORBADE THE US MILITARY MEN OF PROJECT ABLE DANGER to INFORM THE FBI OF THEIR PRESENCE - in blatant circumvention of Executive Order 12333.)

    Another spectacular untruth is on page 52: "Later in the 1990s, CIA... [failed] to put U.S. operatives into the country [Afghanistan] to kill bin Laden and the al-Qaeda leadership, relying on Afghans instead." Mr. Clarke, of course, was at the center of Mr. Clinton's advisers, who resolutely refused to order the CIA to kill bin Laden. In spring 1998, I briefed Mr. Clarke and senior CIA, Department of Defense and FBI officers on a plan to kidnap bin Laden. Mr. Clarke's reaction was that "it was just a thinly disguised attempt to assassinate bin Laden." I replied that if he wanted bin Laden dead, we could do the job quickly. Mr. Clarke's response was that the president did not want bin Laden assassinated, and that we had no authority to do so.

    Mr. Clarke's book is also a crucial complement to the September 11 panel's failure to condemn Mr. Clinton's failure to capture or kill bin Laden on any of the eight to 10 chances afforded by CIA reporting. Mr. Clarke never mentions that President Bush had no chances to kill bin Laden before September 11 and leaves readers with the false impression that he, Mr. Clinton and Mr. Clinton's national security adviser, Sandy Berger, did their best to end the bin Laden threat. That trio, in my view, abetted al Qaeda, and if the September 11 families were smart they would focus on the dereliction of Dick, Bill and Sandy and not the antics of convicted September 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui. :p>:p>
    About John O'Neill, little needs to be said. In my own experience, Mr. O'Neill was interested only in furthering his career and disguising the rank incompetence of senior FBI leaders. He once told me that he and the FBI would oppose an operation to capture bin Laden and take him to a third country for incarceration. When I asked why, he replied, "Why should the FBI help to capture bin Laden if the bureau won't get credit among Americans for his arrest and conviction"? :p>:p>
    So, I look forward to ABC's mini-series, as well as to seeing the quality of the network's fact-checkers. If they do their job well, some of the September 11 Commission's whitewash may start to be peeled away. If they fail, however, the reality that Bill, Dick and Sandy helped to push Americans out of the windows of the World Trade Center on that September morning will be buried in miles of fantasy-filled celluloid.

    Finally, on a personal note, it appears necessary to clear up some misunderstandings about the focus I have given to this issue the past couple of days. The truth is that I have not yet seen “The Path to 9/11,” and, frankly, have no opinion on it. How can one have an opinion on something one hasn’t seen?

    In reality, that has been my point from the start. Too often in our country today, folks are inflamed by books, movies, and TV programs they haven’t either read or viewed. We see this on a regular basis whenever a conservative book is published, and the author will be thoroughly eviscerated on one of the network morning shows by some holier-than-thou type who hasn’t read the book in question at all. How many of the hollering left actually read Ann Coulter’s recent book before they shouted from the rooftops, “Off with her head”?

    Well, it appears this has happened with “The Path to 9/11,” and all those guilty of rendering an opinion without having seen it should be ashamed of themselves. This is especially true of those in the blogosphere that have fanned the fires of discontent concerning this program before it even aired.


    Is this miniseries a perfectly accurate accounting of the events surrounding the attacks on our nation five years ago? I don’t know. As Brent Bozell said in his piece concerning this matter:
    The movie is based on the report of the 9/11 Commission, which itself is not infallible in its conclusions on what went wrong and what needs to fixed. Moreover, up front the moviemakers note it has composite characters and manipulates the time of events for a better movie experience. As a "docudrama" it has taken certain poetic license with history.

    The reality is that none of us knows all of the details surrounding this event, or leading up to it. Anyone that watched the 9/11 Commission hearings has to be aware that many of the witnesses from both administrations appeared unwilling to be completely candid. Was this due to a need to protect national security, or to cover one’s backside? Who knows? But, this Commission and everything surrounding it was highly politicized, and, as a result, we might never know all the facts.:p>:p>
    In the end, “The Path to 9/11” is just a made-for-television docudrama…nothing more, nothing less. As such, rather than its existence further dividing our nation on the fifth anniversary of this solemn event, maybe we should all just watch it, and decide for ourselves its merit and veracity.



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    Sean,
    When you post stuff with HTML, you may want to start checking a little box down at the bottom in the message editor screen under "Additional Options" and "Miscellaneous Options" that says "Disable smilies in text". This should keep all those odd smilies from popping up.

    Of course, if you want to actually use smilies in your post, you will likely have to use the IMG tags and link to them like a regular image.

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    Clinton aide says 9/11 film 'correct'
    Producer consulted with military attaché who saw aborted attacks on bin Laden

    Posted: September 8, 2006
    3:33 p.m. Eastern

    By Art Moore
    © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com



    Buzz Patterson with President Clinton
    A former military aide to President Clinton who claims he witnessed several missed opportunities to capture or kill Osama bin Laden says the producer of the ABC mini-series "The Path to 9/11" came to him in frustration after network executives under a heavy barrage of criticism from former administration officials began pressing for changes to the script.
    In an interview with WND, retired Air Force Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson said producer and writer Cyrus Nowrasteh called him the morning of Sept. 1, explaining he had used Patterson's book "Dereliction of Duty" as a source for the drama.
    Later that day, Nowrasteh brought a preview copy of "The Path to 9/11" to Patterson for him to view at home. Patterson, who says he has talked with the director seven or eight times since then, also received a phone call from an ABC senior vice president, Quinn Taylor.
    Patterson told WND he recognizes the television production conflates several events, but, in terms of conveying how the Clinton administration handled its opportunities to get bin Laden, it's "100 percent factually correct," he said.
    "I was there with Clinton and (National Security Adviser Sandy) Berger and watched the missed opportunities occur," Patterson declared.
    The five-hour drama is scheduled to air in two parts, Sunday night and Monday night, Sept. 11.

    As a military aide to President Clinton from 1996 to 1998, Patterson was one of five men entrusted with carrying the "nuclear football," which contains the codes for launching nuclear weapons.
    Reached by phone at his home in Southern California, Nowrasteh affirmed to WND he consulted with Patterson and gave him a preview of the drama.

    Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson (FrontPageMagazine.com)

    During the interview this morning, Nowrasteh took a moment to watch as President Clinton's image turned up on his nearby TV screen to criticize the movie. The director did not want to respond directly to Clinton's comments, but offered a general response to critics.
    "Everybody's got to calm down and watch the movie," Nowrasteh told WND. "This is not an indictment of one president or another. The villains are the terrorists. This is a clarion bell for people to wake up and take notice."
    Patterson pointed out the Bush administration also is depicted in an unfavorable light in the months before 9/11.
    An ABC executive who requested anonymity told the Washington Post the network has made "adjustments and refinements" to the drama that are "intended to make clearer that it was general indecisiveness" by federal officials that left the U.S. vulnerable to attack, and "not any one individual."
    Yesterday, the New York Post reported Clinton wrote to ABC officials, complaining the "content of this drama is factually and incontrovertibly inaccurate and ABC has the duty to fully correct all errors or pull the drama entirely." Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, according to the Washington Post, has described a scene, in which she is depicted, as "false and defamatory."
    Democrats have been particularly critical of a scene that depicts Berger refusing to authorize a mission to capture bin Laden after CIA operatives and Afghan fighters had the al-Qaida leader in their sights.
    Nowrasteh acknowledges this is a "conflation of events," but Berger, in a letter to Robert Iger – president and CEO of ABC's corporate parent, the Walt Disney Co. – said "no such episode ever occurred, nor did anything like it."
    Patterson contended, however, the scene is similar to a plan the administration had with the CIA and the Afghan Northern Alliance to snatch bin Laden from a camp in Afghanistan.


    The scene in "The Path to 9/11," as Patterson recalled from the preview version, unfolds with CIA operatives at the camp on the phone with Berger, who is expressing concern that an attack could result in innocent bystanders being killed. An agent says he sees swing sets and children's toys in the area. The scene ends with Berger hanging up the phone.
    Patterson says his recollection is that Clinton was involved directly in several similar incidents in which Berger was pressing the president for a decision.
    "Berger was very agitated, he couldn't get a decision from the president," Patterson said.
    Patterson noted wasn't sure what Berger wanted to do – whether the national security adviser wanted the answer to be yes or no – but the frustration, at the very least, was based on the president making himself unavailable to make a decision.
    In "Dereliction of Duty," Patterson recounts an event in the situation room of the White House in which Berger was told by a military watch officer "Sir, we've located bin Laden. We have a two-hour window to strike."
    Clinton, according to Patterson, did not return phone calls from Berger for more than an hour then said he wanted more time to study the situation.
    Patterson writes: "We 'studied' the issues until it was too late-the window of opportunity closed."

    Harvey Keitel plays counter-terrorism expert John O'Neill in ABC's "The Path to 9/11

    In another "missed opportunity," Patterson writes, Clinton was watching a golf tournament when Berger placed an urgent call to the president. Clinton became irritated when Patterson approached him with the message. After the third attempt, Clinton coolly responded he would call Berger on his way back to the White House. By then, however, according to Patterson, the opportunity was lost.
    As WND reported, Berger was the focus of a Justice Department investigation for removing highly classified terrorism documents before the Sept. 11 Commission hearings that generated the report used for the television program.
    FBI agents searched Berger's home and office after he voluntarily returned some documents to the National Archives.
    Berger and his lawyer told reporters he knowingly removed handwritten notes he made while reading classified anti-terror documents at the archives by sticking them in his clothing. They said he also inadvertently took copies of actual classified documents in a leather portfolio.
    Patterson said Berger's response to the "The Path to 9/11" is similar to his response to the accounts in "Dereliction of Duty," insisting the incidents attributed to him "never occurred."
    Patterson said his book put him under intense pressure from Clinton officials – an aide even spoke of taking away his military retirement benefits – but when the title reached No. 1 on Amazon.com, "they shut up."
    There are others who can corroborate his accounts, Patterson insisted, but they are still in military service and therefore legally bound not to come forward and make statements.
    Three of the four other military aides who rotated being at the president's side were additional sources for his book, Patterson affirmed.
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    Just a thought that popped into my head... I wonder where Tim Robbins is decrying this "chill wind" of censorship that is blowing.

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    Part I tonight was very good... plainly laid the blame at Clinton's doorstep.

    Burglar Sandy came off as the fool he is.

    Ditto for Madame Notsobright.

    Can't for tomorrow and Part II.

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    Yep...part one was pretty good.

    I saw some critics complain that part one was "plodding" and it made me wonder about their attention span.

    I also noted the lack of background music. I think that was the right choice also. Also...kudos to ABC for NO COMMERCIALS.
    As far as Clinton, Albright and Berger...they looked pathetic...weak and political indecisive, more worried about covering their asses and getting their bosses re-elected. I liked the actor who played the role of the rebel colonel in the Northern Alliance.


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    I just hope that the Amercain public remembers what took place and how the Clintons, Albright, Burger showed how they sold this country down the river for their own self interests.

    Now the next show that needs to be written as to who started all this in the first place Jimmy Carter and his gang of Commie Bothers.

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    Signed it. I was 449... sad.

    Unfortunately, I missed the show last night, and I understand the Boss is on TV tonight during the show... so... so much for that.

    Do you think it will be on Utube? lol
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    I was watching Bill O'Reilly and he said ABC was only editing the parts where the writer took liberties with what people said. Meaning it was not true and was intended for dramatic effect. If that's the case then I suppose that's ok. We don't want our version to be lies or we're no better than Michael Moore.

    ABC did however keep the main track of the show's message intact. I thought they did the right thing and that the movie was still in keeping with what really happened.
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    I thought that after the movie we could take a look at the reality of 9/11.

    These are some 9/11 facts and stats gathered by "New York" magazine.

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    http://www.newyorkmetro.com/news/art...ar/numbers.htm


    9/11 by the Numbers
    Death, destruction, charity, salvation, war, money, real estate, spouses, babies, and other September 11 statistics.


    The initial numbers are indelible: 8:46 a.m. and 9:02 a.m. Time the burning towers stood: 56 minutes and 102 minutes. Time they took to fall: 12 seconds. From there, they ripple out.

    * Total number killed in attacks (official figure as of 9/5/02): 2,819

    * Number of firefighters and paramedics killed: 343

    * Number of NYPD officers: 23

    * Number of Port Authority police officers: 37

    * Number of WTC companies that lost people: 60

    * Number of employees who died in Tower One: 1,402

    * Number of employees who died in Tower Two: 614

    * Number of employees lost at Cantor Fitzgerald: 658

    * Number of U.S. troops killed in Operation Enduring Freedom: 22

    * Number of nations whose citizens were killed in attacks: 115

    * Ratio of men to women who died: 3:1

    * Age of the greatest number who died: between 35 and 39

    * Bodies found "intact": 289

    * Body parts found: 19,858

    * Number of families who got no remains: 1,717

    * Estimated units of blood donated to the New York Blood Center: 36,000

    * Total units of donated blood actually used: 258

    * Number of people who lost a spouse or partner in the attacks: 1,609

    * Estimated number of children who lost a parent: 3,051

    * Percentage of Americans who knew someone hurt or killed in the attacks: 20

    * FDNY retirements, January–July 2001: 274

    * FDNY retirements, January–July 2002: 661

    * Number of firefighters on leave for respiratory problems by January 2002: 300

    * Number of funerals attended by Rudy Giuliani in 2001: 200

    * Number of FDNY vehicles destroyed: 98

    * Tons of debris removed from site: 1,506,124

    * Days fires continued to burn after the attack: 99

    * Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100

    * Days the New York Stock Exchange was closed: 6

    * Point drop in the Dow Jones industrial average when the NYSE reopened: 684.81

    * Days after 9/11 that the U.S. began bombing Afghanistan: 26

    * Total number of hate crimes reported to the Council on American-Islamic Relations nationwide since 9/11: 1,714

    * Economic loss to New York in month following the attacks: $105 billion

    * Estimated cost of cleanup: $600 million

    * Total FEMA money spent on the emergency: $970 million

    * Estimated amount donated to 9/11 charities: $1.4 billion

    * Estimated amount of insurance paid worldwide related to 9/11: $40.2 billion

    * Estimated amount of money needed to overhaul lower-Manhattan subways: $7.5 billion

    * Amount of money recently granted by U.S. government to overhaul lower-Manhattan subways: $4.55 billion

    * Estimated amount of money raised for funds dedicated to NYPD and FDNY families: $500 million

    * Percentage of total charity money raised going to FDNY and NYPD families: 25

    * Average benefit already received by each FDNY and NYPD widow: $1 million

    * Percentage increase in law-school applications from 2001 to 2002: 17.9

    * Percentage increase in Peace Corps applications from 2001 to 2002: 40

    * Percentage increase in CIA applications from 2001 to 2002: 50

    * Number of songs Clear Channel Radio considered "inappropriate" to play after 9/11: 150

    * Number of mentions of 9/11 at the Oscars: 26

    * Apartments in lower Manhattan eligible for asbestos cleanup: 30,000

    * Number of apartments whose residents have requested cleanup and testing: 4,110

    * Number of Americans who changed their 2001 holiday-travel plans from plane to train or car: 1.4 million

    * Estimated number of New Yorkers suffering from post-traumatic-stress disorder as a result of 9/11: 422,000




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    While listening to the President's speech the other night....did anyone get the strong feeling that he was telling us that we (US...UK...and probably Israel) are going to take out Iran's nuke facilities....REAL SOON? (My guess...in the next 3 months)

    (I was hoping someone else got that from his speech and would post it, so I waited until now to ask).


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    I don't think so. I think it's more of the same sabre rattling that we did with North Korea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Bagadonuts View Post
    While listening to the President's speech the other night....did anyone get the strong feeling that he was telling us that we (US...UK...and probably Israel) are going to take out Iran's nuke facilities....REAL SOON? (My guess...in the next 3 months)

    (I was hoping someone else got that from his speech and would post it, so I waited until now to ask).


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    He has no choice at this point, none whatsoever.

    In fact, it is probably already too late for a strike now. I think the urgency and intonation we both picked up on comes from his realization that the impending world war is unavoidable and will include the first nuclear exchange in the history of mankind.

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    Joey.

    Related to what I just posted above -- this just in...

    http://www.transasianaxis.com/vb/sho...&postcount=436

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    The Path to Hysteria
    My sin was to write a screenplay accurately depicting Bill Clinton's record on terrorism.

    BY CYRUS NOWRASTEH
    Monday, September 18, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT
    I am neither an activist, politician or partisan, nor an ideologue of any stripe. What I am is a writer who takes his job very seriously, as do most of my colleagues: Also, one who recently took on the most distressing and important story it will ever fall to me to tell. I considered it a privilege when asked to write the script for "The Path to 9/11." I felt duty-bound from the outset to focus on a single goal--to represent our recent pre-9/11 history as the evidence revealed it to be. The American people deserve to know that history: They have paid for it in blood. Like all Americans, I wish it were not so. I wish there were no terrorists. I wish there had been no 9/11. I wish we could squabble among ourselves in assured security. But wishes avail nothing.
    My Iranian parents fled tyranny and oppression. I know and appreciate deeply the sanctuary America has offered. Only in this country could a person such as I have had the life, liberty and opportunity that I have had. No one needs to remind me of this--I know it every single day. I know, too, as does everyone involved in the production, that we kept uppermost in our minds the need for due diligence in the delivery of this history. Fact-checkers and lawyers scrutinized every detail, every line, every scene. There were hundreds of pages of annotations. We were informed by multiple advisers and interviews with people involved in the events--and books, including in a most important way the 9/11 Commission Report.
    It would have been good to be able to report due diligence on the part of those who judged the film, the ones who held forth on it before watching a moment of it. Instead, in the rush to judgment, and the effort to portray the series as the work of a right-wing zealot, much was made of my "friendship" with Rush Limbaugh (a connection limited to two social encounters), but nothing of any acquaintance with well-known names on the other side of the political spectrum. No reference to Abby Mann, for instance, with whom I worked on "10,000 Black Men Named George" (whose hero is an African-American communist) or Oliver Stone, producer of "The Day Reagan Was Shot," a film I wrote and directed. Clearly, those enraged that a film would criticize the Clinton administration's antiterrorism policies--though critical of its successor as well--were willing to embrace only one scenario: The writer was a conservative hatchetman.


    In July a reporter asked if I had ever been ethnically profiled. I happily replied, "No." I can no longer say that. The L.A. Times, for one, characterized me by race, religion, ethnicity, country-of-origin and political leanings--wrongly on four of five counts. To them I was an Iranian-American politically conservative Muslim. It is perhaps irrelevant in our brave new world of journalism that I was born in Boulder, Colo. I am not a Muslim or practitioner of any religion, nor am I a political conservative. What am I? I am, most devoutly, an American. I asked the reporter if this kind of labeling was a new policy for the paper. He had no response. The hysteria engendered by the series found more than one target. In addition to the death threats and hate mail directed at me, and my grotesque portrayal as a maddened right-winger, there developed an impassioned search for incriminating evidence on everyone else connected to the film. And in director David Cunningham, the searchers found paydirt! His father had founded a Christian youth outreach mission. The whiff of the younger Mr. Cunningham's possible connection to this enterprise was enough to set the hounds of suspicion baying. A religious mission! A New York Times reporter wrote, without irony or explanation, that an issue that raised questions about the director was his involvement in his father's outreach work. In the era of McCarthyism, the merest hint of a connection to communism sufficed to inspire dark accusations, the certainty that the accused was part of a malign conspiracy. Today, apparently, you can get something of that effect by charging a connection with a Christian mission.
    "The Path to 9/11" was intended to remind us of the common enemy we face. Like the 9/11 Report itself, it is meant to enable us to better defend ourselves from a future attack. Past is prologue, and 9/11 is merely another step in an escalating Islamic fundamentalist reign of terror. By dramatizing the step-by-step increase in attacks on America--all of which, in fact, occurred--we are better able to see the pattern and anticipate the future. That was the point of the series, its only intention. Call it the canary in the coal mine. Call it John O'Neill in the FBI.
    Despite intense political pressure to pull the film right up until airtime, Disney/ABC stood tall and refused to give in. For this--for not buckling to threats from Democratic senators threatening to revoke ABC station licenses--Disney CEO Rober Iger and ABC executives deserve every commendation. Hence the 28 million viewers over two nights, and the ratings victory Monday night (little reported by the media), are gratifying indeed.
    "The Path to 9/11" was set in the time before the event, and in a world in which no party had the political will to act. The principals did not know then what we know now. It is also indisputable that Bill Clinton entered office a month before the first attack on the World Trade Center. Eight years then went by, replete with terrorist assaults on Americans and American interests overseas. George W. Bush was in office eight months before 9/11. Those who actually watched the entire miniseries know that he was given no special treatment.


    It's good to have come to something approaching the end of this saga, whose lessons are worth remembering. It gave us, for one thing, a heartening glimpse (these things don't come along every day) of corporate backbone in the face of phenomenal pressure--and an infinitely more chilling one testifying to the power and reach of politically driven hysteria. A ripe subject for a miniseries, if ever there was one.

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